EVE has as a point of fact been dying for years - it's just now accelerating past the point of no return. There are far too many players in high-sec, so a kick (rather than nudge) is desperately needed. This only works if low-sec folks have a chance to stand on their own, though - so supers need to go.

The fact that old alliances have control of everything and always will. Until CCP gives the same opportunities to every new player then nothing will change. There is no way for example that a new person or group will ever get that r64 moon ever. There is no way they will get 0.0 space unless they rent it and pay billions. Eve is controlled by the big entities now.

I honestly believe eve needs another or a few new instances because of this. Some will disagree but I strongly believe it needs it, to give others a chance of the same things.

Recruitment is impossible now, there are literally hundreds of corps recruiting for a small amount of people. which usually go to the big alliances again. Theres a pattern here..... Everything for the new person is consumed by the old of which they can never have. So whats the point playing...

I have to jump in here because even for me a vet get tired of hearing 'go fight for it, nothing to stop you' New players cannot fight against 500 super caps, or 20000 man coalitions so please stop saying that is rather annoying.

I mean lets talks about Goonswarm couldnt win in the last war and you expect new players to do the same? Really?
What should that new player do? wait 10 years and perhaps have a chance? I guess they can ask nicely right?

Or, perhaps those new players could actually join an existing null sec alliance and take part in stuff.

What is this argument I see that new players haven't got a chance to topple existing Null sec alliances? Of course not, if Null sec alliances were that easy to topple there would be no point being a null sec alliance.

Everyone was a new player once. You learn, you grow, you make friends. One day you will be the person at the top driving your enemies before you. It takes time, but nothing good ever comes easy. Of course it all depends on whether the player has the skill, knowledge, dedication, charisma and drive it takes to run a large entity....I don't, but then I have little interest in running a 10k+ alliance.

today you cant even get a sub-cap decent fight without someone, there's always someone escalating and pushing the iwin at caps button. they do this each and every time, matter of fact most of those guys refuse to fight on normal levels unless they outnumber the opposing foe by 75 or more!.

I disagree about it having nothing to do with alphas. That kind of economy issue has to do with everyone trying to pick a fight, which includes alphas.

Batphoning a drunken titan pilot is a perfectly good answer, but it requires the guy with the batphone to have a drunken titan pilot friend. If you can't beat them, join them-and that's why big alliances keep getting bigger and starving for content between wars. Nobody small wants to fight them because it will end badly.

Meh, just make it F2P and able to get all skills and stuff, just start selling stuff! for RL iskies!

EVE is P2W anyways.

Offcourse this will never happen! Enough suckers (like me) who will keep forking out the subscription fee.

I do wonder what would make them more iskies... paid subscription or paid content.

30% revenue increase in 2016:

http://www.mmogames.com/gamenews/eve-online-propels-ccp-games-profits/

EVE nominated for a BAFTA in 2017 as best evolving game:

http://www.bafta.org/games/games-awards-nominees-2017#evolving-game

Not bad for a failure.

Even customers can see rising revenue and critical acknowledgement as failure.

Such a failure that as a community, we have given them more money. That'll teach them.

killers of the game as i see it is npc corps , after tutorial new players should auto join corps with isd/devs running this corp and any kind hearted vets who do make a differnce with thier help and advise .

many players just want pvp then give them it . example arena who wants the crown as top player it wont be me.

many players just want pve then give them it. no gank up to 0.9/8 max .

remove concord so in 0.8 or lower what ever you decide then players are game on

open up all areas so corps dont just camp the gates with bubbles , not a clue how you do that but open it up.

i stopped playing solo joined a corp , starting to have fun just need to find the other corp who we war with to have the pvp battle looking foward to it .

just a few examples off the top of me head and are only suggestions to get players to play as a team rather than single player .

the game has a good ethos and a good mantra

wish you all well and good health

But all that takes YEARS to get to. or even compete against, it does. Most alliances will not dare go near those alliances. cmon you know this. tell me what alliance in eve has gone head on to take out PL or NC. for example? not one. Why because they cant. even long term experienced ones. It took TRILLIONS of ISK and lots and lots of the big pure pvp alliances to band together to remove Goonswarm from Deklein, and that was just to get them out of the region.. They now still own a big region and still take over high sec and still control markets and still have tons of moons yada yada yada... You sir are talking complete and utter BS and havent got a clue.

played eve on and off for 11 years or so.
so much hand-wringing these days.
buy some moisturiser, kids.

It is relatively safe for someone like myself with 1000s of hours and multiple characters into the game - I rarely get ganked unless I get complacent or someone takes their time to study and target me specifically. For many new players though that isn't the case - many are easy prey and fed on by the bottom feeders - 4 out of 5 people that I've tried to get into the game and have quit have cited being ganked, usually more than once, before they could understand the game being the primary reason and that is after I've tried to guide them around the main pitfalls.

Personally though I'm not a big fan of making highsec too safe I like the potential and challenges that it can bring.

Always - but people will always do their own thing - you can lead em to water but you can't make them drink.



Some do - sadly more than once people have decided to undock with PLEX despite me telling them multiple times not to do that ever - when they see a month's subscription (or more) go down the drain having only played for a couple of weeks they usually quit.

Heh... here you not having any ideas about ratting in a supercarrier?

I will answer: supercarrier does Haven in like 5-6 minutes. And this is like 6-8 waves of NPC. And for each NPC ship you need to select fighter and give it a command. Lots of clicks...

And with this patch they add whole bunch of additional clickfest to it: now you will need to order additional command to fighters to orbit something while they are finishing current target. Else new spawn of NPC can wreck some of fighters before you even lock new target.....

Seems like business wise they are on the right track with Phoenix and maybe Nova and the other things they are selling.

A single product protfolio is kinda bad tho. As long as they run on one income source, they are always withing one real bad expansion of being in major troubles.

I despise alpha change with a passion, been playing since 07 with first toon always bought 1 year subs from ccp. alpha is totally being abused and ccp aint makeing much profit from it eathier

Electronic Arts likes F2P models...

[..] Some of the most fun I have had in game is when the **** really goes against "my side". In those instances there are usually no end to the fleets I can get in and the targets are plentiful. [..]

No, we have ship spinning contests. The person who gets to 100 spins first gets to log off and go to bed.

You can wax lyrical about that stuff but again for many new players if won't be something they experience before they form an opinion of the game.

I'm not advocating turning it into WoW or other MMOs but borrowing a little from some similar games could go a long way to pushing the activity levels and new player retention upwards rather than the current tailing off trend and bridge the gap between the initial experience and the fuller eve experience.

When I started the game, I had friends/family in PL and a group from another forum I frequent to help me through the first few weeks - without that I very much doubt I'd have gone on to spend nearly 6 years subscribed to the game - I think people underestimate what it can be like for people who don't come into the game through entities like SA and Reddit, etc.

A bit of a longshot but I thought more of the social part of
the Eve experience.
I bet it took many hours to develop the Alpha concept too.

WTF is a Ceta? Mean "Gamma"?

My latin teacher is turning in his grave lol.

I don't think alpha accounts have anything to do with it. There's an impression amongst some gamers that the older players are entrenched and nobody could "catch up" to them... I obviously don't believe this but that's the prevailing impression. I think CCP should speed up training for lower SP accounts. Something like <10 mil SP gets you an 10x multiplier. 10-30mil SP = 8x training multiplier, etc...

I'm just over 200 mil SP. I actually wish skills weren't even a thing. 'If you can buy it you can fly it' is my attitude.

Patience? This is not a question of patience. The game is simply hostile to new players. Being a pushover for months is anything but fun. What is the point of wasting a few month only to begin actually paly this game while there are others with interesting content for new players? One have to be quite a masochist to enjoy the beginning of one's career in EVE. No wonder most newcomers choose to leave.

And that is the problem.

Imagine you are a kid in a sandbox, and you are restricted to one corner of the sand box because you dont have enough time or money to play in the 'cool kids' section of the sandbox, or make the same kinds of sandcastles that they can make.

The restrictions to alpha clones should be far more sublte but not TOTAL restrictions.
Don't restrict the ships and moduels they can use, c'mon!
This defeats the purpose of the Sandbox!!

Nerf their train time if you want to, but new players need to feel as if the sky is the limit in Eve at all times.

Either that or make the whole damn game (minus cosmetic items such as skins) free to play.

Yeh the more i think about it the more I think Alpha clone implementation was a mistake. Hopefully a 'beta' clone will fix some problems but I fear the discouragement and damage has already been done to the poor and oppressed alpha players from my observations.